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שְׁנַיִם אוֹחֲזִין בְּטַלִּית, זֶה אוֹמֵר אֲנִי מְצָאתִיהָ וְזֶה אוֹמֵר אֲנִי מְצָאתִיהָ, זֶה אוֹמֵר כֻּלָּהּ שֶׁלִּי וְזֶה אוֹמֵר כֻּלָּהּ שֶׁלִּי, זֶה יִשָּׁבַע שֶׁאֵין לוֹ בָהּ פָּחוֹת מֵחֶצְיָהּ, וְזֶה יִשָּׁבַע שֶׁאֵין לוֹ בָהּ פָּחוֹת מֵחֶצְיָהּ, וְיַחֲלֹקוּ. זֶה אוֹמֵר כֻּלָּהּ שֶׁלִּי וְזֶה אוֹמֵר חֶצְיָהּ שֶׁלִּי, הָאוֹמֵר כֻּלָּהּ שֶׁלִּי, יִשָּׁבַע שֶׁאֵין לוֹ בָהּ פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁלשָׁה חֲלָקִים, וְהָאוֹמֵר חֶצְיָהּ שֶׁלִּי, יִשָּׁבַע שֶׁאֵין לוֹ בָהּ פָּחוֹת מֵרְבִיעַ. זֶה נוֹטֵל שְׁלשָׁה חֲלָקִים, וְזֶה נוֹטֵל רְבִיעַ:

Двое держат одежду. Первый говорит: «Я нашел это»; второй: «Я нашел это». [Гемара истолковывает случай в нашей Мишне как тот, где первый держал пряди на одной стороне одежды, а второй - пряди на другой стороне. Но если они держались за сам предмет одежды, то первое берет на себя, насколько достигает его рука, а второе, насколько достигает его рука. А остальные они делят поровну с помощью клятвы.] Первый говорит: «Это все мое»; вторая: «Это все мое». [то есть я купил его, а продавец продал его мне, а не вам. И продавец продал его одному из них и забрал деньги у обоих; один, по согласию, а другой, против его воли. И он не знает, что есть что. Ибо, если бы он знал и сказал: «Я продал его этому», получит один свидетель, и в этом случае клятва Торы будет навязана другому, чтобы опровергнуть свидетеля. Теперь, когда он не знает, оба клянутся этой клятвой, указанной в нашей Мишне. По закону они должны делиться без клятвы; но мудрецы установили, что ни один из них не берет ничего без клятвы, так что человек не должен идти и взять одежду своего соседа и сказать: "Это мое!" И Танне было необходимо сообщить нам обоим: «Я нашел это»— (пример) нахождения потерянного объекта и: «Это все мое» —(пример) покупка и продажа. Если бы только первому учили, я бы сказал, что только в этом случае Тора давала клятву, склонную рационализировать незаконный захват потерянного предмета, а именно: «Мой друг ничего не потеряет. Я пойду и возьми его и раздели с ним. Но, в случае покупки и продажи, где, если бы ему это не нужно, он не стал бы преследовать продавца, чтобы купить его, тот, кто приходит разделить с ним и отдать половину цены, причиняет ему убытки незаконно, без рационализации.—чтобы я мог сказать (если не указано иное), что раввины не давали ему клятву. И если бы нас знали только о покупке и продаже, я бы сказал, что только в этом случае раввины дали клятву, потому что в этом случае он мог бы сказать: «Мой друг дал деньги, а я тоже дал деньги. Теперь , что мне это нужно для себя, я возьму это, и отпущу моего друга и куплю еще один ". Но в случае утерянного объекта, где такого (рационализация) не получается, я могу сказать, что нет (т. Е. Клятва не накладывается). Поэтому нам сообщают иначе.] Первый клянется, что он имеет в нем не менее половины, а второй клянется, что у него в нем не менее половины, и они делятся, [Он не клянется, что это все его согласно его первоначальному требованию, потому что они не дадут ему все это , И если он клянется, что эта половина принадлежит ему, в соответствии с тем, что ему дают, он искажает свое первоначальное утверждение: «Это все мое». Поэтому он клянется, что в нем не менее половины, что подразумевает: это все мое, как я говорил в начале; и, по словам вас, которые не верят мне в целом, я даю клятву, что у меня есть (владение) в ней, и что у меня есть не менее половины.] Если первый говорит: «Это все моя"; а второй: «Половина принадлежит мне», тот, кто говорит: «Это все мое», клянется, что у него есть не менее трех четвертей, а тот, кто говорит: «Половина это мое», клянется, что у него не меньше чем одна четверть. Первый занимает три четверти, а второй - одну четверть.

Bartenura on Mishnah Bava Metzia

שנים אוחזין בטלית – In the Gemara (Bava Metzia 7a), it maintains our Mishnah [deals with the case] such as one of them grabs hold of threads that are at the border of the garment from this side, and another grabs hold of threads that at the border of the of the garment from that side, but if they were cleaving to the garment itself, this one takes up until the place where hand reaches and that one takes up the place where his hand reaches, and the rest they would divide equally. , and through an oath.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Bava Metzia

Introduction
The first two mishnayoth of Bava Metzia deal with cases where two people both claim ownership over an object which they are jointly holding.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Bava Metzia

זה אומר כולה שלי – I purchased it and/or it was sold to me by the seller and not to you. And when the seller sold [it] to one of them and took the money from both of them, one of them with his knowledge and the other one against his will, and he (i.e., the seller) does not know which one was with his knowledge and which one was against his will. For if he had known, and he would have said: “to this one, I sold [it].” There would be here one witness. And the one opposite him would be liable for an oath from the Torah, to contradict the witness. But now that he does not know, both are sworn to this oath that is mentioned in our Mishnah. And by law, they would divide [the garment] without an oath, but the Sages enacted that neither of them at all can take it without an oath, in order that everyone wouldn’t go and seize the garment of his fellow and say, “it is mine.” And it was necessary for the Tanna [of our Mishnah] to teach us that when this one says, “I found it, “that is through [an act of] finding it, and the other who says, “it is all mine,” that is through a commercial transaction. For had the Tanna [of our Mishnah] [only taught] a found object, I might think that it is through a found object [only] that the Rabbis imposed an oath, because they have taught a leniency to grab hold [of the corner of the object] inappropriately, so that my fellow would not have nothing missing in it, I will go and grab hold of it and divide it in public, but [regarding] a commercial transaction, if he had no need for it, he would not go after it to purchase it, and the person who comes to divide it with him and give him half of its monetary value, which is inappropriate, causing him loss and that is not to say that he is teaching that it is permitted to do so. I would say that the Rabbis did not impose upon him an oath. But if [the Mishnah] only taught about commercial transactions, I would say that is only upon commercial transactions that the Rabbis imposed upon him an oath because they are teaching a leniency and he [would] say, my fellow gives me money and I give money, now it is necessary for me, I will take it, and my fellow will have to trouble himself to go and purchase another one. But, regarding a found object, where you don’t have to say this, I would say, no, hence, it is necessary [for the Mishnah to teach both about found objects and commercial transactions].
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Mishnah One
1) If two people are grasping a cloak: One says, “I found it” and the other says, “I found it”, or one says “It’s all mine”, and the other says, “It’s all mine”, they each swear that they don’t own more than half of the cloak and they split the cloak.
2) (If) one says, “It’s all mine” and the other says, “It’s half mine”, the one who says, “It’s all mine” swears that he doesn’t own less than ¾ and the one who says “It’s half mine” swears that he doesn’t own less than ¼, and the former takes ¾ and the latter takes ¼.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Bava Metzia

ישבע שאין לו בה פחות מחציה – but he would not be sworn to an oath [saying] “it is all his,” as he would claim from the outset. For all of it would not be given to him. But if from when he claimed that half of it was his that it should be given to him, he would weaken his position from his first statement – when he said that it was all his. Therefore, he takes an oath that he does not have any less than half, which implies by this – that all of it is mine, as he had said initially; but according to your words, where you do not believe me regarding all of it, [I am taking] an oath that I have [a stake] in it and I have no less than one-half.
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Explanation—Mishnah One
This Mishnah describes the common situation in which two people claim ownership of an article and neither can prove that it belongs to him. If they were to bring witnesses the judges would rule according to their testimony. In the absence of witnesses the judges must rule based on other assumptions. The means of ensuring that the person was telling the truth was in many cases, including this one, an oath. One should note that oaths were taken extremely seriously by Jews in ancient times and the assumption is that one would not swear falsely. Therefore taking an oath is a strong deterrent to lying.
Mishnah Two
1) If two men were riding on an animal, or one was riding and the other was leading the animal, and one of them said, “The animal is all mine”, and the other said “It is all mine.”, they each swear that they don’t own less than half of the animal and they split it.
2) If after the case is settled, they both admit to the others claim, or if there are witnesses they can split the animal without an oath.
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Explanation—Mishnah Two
This mishnah is similar to the previous mishnah and just deals with a different disputed object. In the second clause the mishnah states that if they agree to the other party’s claim or if there are witnesses that the animal is owned by both parties, they split the animal without an oath. The function of the oath is to ensure that the person is telling the truth. When there is no dispute, or when there are witnesses who testify, there is no need for an oath. Since it is preferable to avoid oaths altogether the two may split the animal without an oath.
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Questions for Further Thought:

• Mishnah one: When a person claims that the entire cloak is his, why does he swear that he doesn’t own less than half? What would happen if each person swore that it was all his?

• Mishnah one: Why in the second clause does the person who swore that it was all his receive ¾ whereas in the first clause he receives only ½?
If two people are grasping a cloak: One says, “I found it” and the other says, “I found it”, or one says “It’s all mine”, and the other says, “It’s all mine”, they each swear that they don’t own more than half of the cloak and they split the cloak.
( one says, “It’s all mine” and the other says, “It’s half mine”, the one who says, “It’s all mine” swears that he doesn’t own less than ¾ and the one who says “It’s half mine” swears that he doesn’t own less than ¼, and the former takes ¾ and the latter takes ¼.

The first two mishnayoth of Bava Metzia deal with cases where two people both claim ownership over an object which they are jointly holding.
This Mishnah describes the common situation in which two people claim ownership of an article and neither can prove that it belongs to him. If they were to bring witnesses the judges would rule according to their testimony. In the absence of witnesses the judges must rule based on other assumptions. The means of ensuring that the person was telling the truth was in many cases, including this one, an oath. One should note that oaths were taken extremely seriously by Jews in ancient times and the assumption is that one would not swear falsely. Therefore taking an oath is a strong deterrent to lying.
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